This post is a reminder that Visa and Mastercard are two american companies and that every time you pay for something with your credit card you are most likely paying taxes to trump and his goons.

This post is also intended to be a provocation to all the crypto haters and the cashless payment fanatics.

  • gon [he]
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    5314 days ago

    Yeah! It’s best to use the national network, if it exists in your country. Also, daily reminder that the EU is working towards the digital Euro.

    This post is also intended to be a provocation to all the crypto haters and the cashless payment fanatics.

    I don’t really get this tbh…

    • @Alxe@lemmy.world
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      The digital euro looks so promising, even if it’s a small thing. Ditching Visa and Mastercard would help reduce intermediates in the payment chain, even if the replacement is the bank itself.

    • @index@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      I don’t really get this tbh…

      Plenty of threads on lemmy where people argue cryptos have no real use. Here’s one: buying a product in europe without paying taxes to donald trump

      • Astigma
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        3214 days ago

        Name one place I can spend crypto that isn’t a dodgy online market

        • @Blackmist@feddit.uk
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          713 days ago

          Or indeed a place to buy it for real money that doesn’t involve a US payment processing company.

          No point if you have to pay to get it in the first place.

          • Astigma
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            1114 days ago

            Fair, I was thinking more brick & mortar and grocery shops but, fair.

            • There are also privacy-paranoid companies selling custom mobile phones without microphones for crypto currencies that you can then pick up in person.

              But honestly, I wouldn’t trust them. If your threat level is the government you should purchase a used phone from a random stranger and pay with cash.

              • Astigma
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                1314 days ago

                I concede that there are online services that aren’t money laundering fronts or drug marketplaces that accept cryptocurrency as payment. OP also provided examples of online services accepting bitcoin.

                I should have been more specific, my mistake. I was thinking more about every day purchases like groceries in a brick and mortar shop.

                • That is fair enough, I have just seen your other response mentioning brick and mortar stores now as well. I do realise we are in a buy European community but I thought you wanted just one example anywhere of somewhere that accepted crypto.

                  I have seen a couple of places IRL that accepted BTC but they were very small, independent stores that I’m guessing the owners were into crypto and just wanted to add the option as it was their interest. It certainly isn’t something you can rely on to purchase your weekly shop or whatever which I guess is more what you were going for.

                  • Astigma
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                    514 days ago

                    I do realise we are in a buy European community but I thought you wanted just one example anywhere of somewhere that accepted crypto

                    It’s all good, my snarkiness tends to get me into more trouble than I intended. I appreciate you taking your time to respond and taking my request seriously.

                    It certainly isn’t something you can rely on to purchase your weekly shop

                    Exactly, until my Grandmother can withdraw her monero from an ATM and pay for her tobacco with it I just don’t see how crypto can ever replace FIAT.

      • gon [he]
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        214 days ago

        Oh thanks for clarifying… I don’t really see those posts, to be honest.

        I do hold some crypto myself (BTC). I think it’s good to have some sort of currency outside of FIAT, just in case, but I don’t foresee it ever becoming a thing in the EU.