• Pherenike
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    42 days ago

    And what propaganda would that be? I just said I didn’t like any of them, so who has brainwashed me? China? 😧 Do you even know what the definition of propaganda is? Seriously…

    • @Foni@lemm.ee
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      -22 days ago

      Oh, come on. Fine, I’ll put it in writing if you need it.
      The first step in the oldest playbook in the business says: if the leader you want to defend (or the company, or the country, it doesn’t matter) does something so obviously wrong that it’s indefensible, make the rival look the same. It doesn’t matter how, it doesn’t matter how much, just muddy the playing field.

      Putting Putin and Zelenskyy on the same level is exactly that, and it’s damn transparent to anyone with half a functioning brain.

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        Ah, right. So if I don’t like Zelenskyy and Trump, it MUST be because I like Putin. No other option possible. Such genious, complex geostrategical thinking!

        If I point out what is criticizable about Zelenskyy, it must be because I want to justify what Putin has done. That indeed does sound like propaganda, come to think of it.

        There is more in the world than black and white, love. And certainly in international politics. You’re the one spouting exactly the same heroic nonsense as the EU. I’m trying to tell you there is more to this conflict than that infantile “good guys” and “bad guys” viewpoint.

        But whatever, suit yourself.

        • @Foni@lemm.ee
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          Zelenskyy is a shell of a human being, and so are Trump and Putin

          You’re not criticizing things about Zelenskyy that are worth criticizing; you’re equating him to Putin, putting the aggressor and the victim on the same level, and you do it with the obvious intention to minimize Putin’s faults. You’re not adding nuance to a leader or contextualizing things; you’re simply implying that the one who has invaded and violated a country’s sovereignty is the same as the one defending against it.

          I’m not going to respond to you again because you’re making a fool of yourself if you think this is going anywhere. But if you wanted to have a serious conversation about what Ukraine could or couldn’t have done differently (Ukraine, not Zelenskyy, who has been in office since 2019, when Russia already had everything ready, not since 2014), you’d have to start by understanding that Russia is the aggressor, that Putin is an imperialist, and that nothing others do will change that.

          • Pherenike
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            Zelenskyy is not the victim.

            Ukraine and its people are.

            He is using this conflict to benefit the US and through that himself in spite of his country.

            Russia and the US are now talking what share of the Ukraine cake should each have.

            And that is disgusting, and is the main thing here.

            Learn to read comprehensively.