To win working-class voters — and possibly today’s election — Democrats need to attack economic elites. But the Kamala Harris campaign hasn’t consistently offered an anti-elite counter to Donald Trump’s right-wing populism.
That’s silly: it won’t be because of her platform, it will be because of Hamas or Putler interweb trolls or the voters themselves, because Dems will look anywhere but in the mirror for their losses.
Hamas internet trolls? Do you have any sources for that? Russian misinformation campaigns are well documented but I find it hard to believe that Hamas is conducting similar operations.
Jacobin: Why the Twitter Files Are in Fact a Big DealOn the Left, there’s been a temptation to dismiss the revelations about Twitter’s internal censorship system that have emerged from the so-called Twitter Files project. But that would be a mistake: the news is important and the details are alarming.
Thanks for sharing those sources! Sorry if I gave the impression that I believe in Russiagate. I meant that it is factually true that Russia attempts to spread misinformation on the internet, and I said that to contrast my belief that Hamas does not formally conduct operations to spread misinformation, unlike Russia. I am not trying to suggest anything about whether or not Russian propaganda is effective or targeted in any specific way.
You keep posting sources for things that are unrelated to my original question. Obviously the USA is top or near top of the list of spreading propaganda online, no one in their right mind would debate that. If you have sources saying that Hamas is spreading misinformation in a way that affects the USA’s 2024 presidential election I am very interested in learning about that.
If you have sources saying that Hamas is spreading misinformation
I didn’t say that Hamas was spreading misinformation. I wrote “Hamas or Putler interweb trolls,” which you read as “Hamas [interweb trolls] or Putler interweb trolls,” but I wasn’t talking about “Hamas interweb trolls.“
That’s silly: it won’t be because of her platform, it will be because of Hamas or Putler interweb trolls or the voters themselves, because Dems will look anywhere but in the mirror for their losses.
First comes denial, then comes xenophobic scapegoating, then finally they’ll turn on each other. They’ll never point the finger at themselves.
Hamas internet trolls? Do you have any sources for that? Russian misinformation campaigns are well documented but I find it hard to believe that Hamas is conducting similar operations.
Russian misinformation campaigns sure are well documented, if you’re a Maddow-pilled Russiagate conspiracy theorist.
Thanks for sharing those sources! Sorry if I gave the impression that I believe in Russiagate. I meant that it is factually true that Russia attempts to spread misinformation on the internet, and I said that to contrast my belief that Hamas does not formally conduct operations to spread misinformation, unlike Russia. I am not trying to suggest anything about whether or not Russian propaganda is effective or targeted in any specific way.
Russia, like every other country, has its propaganda. Even Hamas, which does not currently control a formal Westphalian state, has its propaganda.
As for propaganda in general and misinformation in particular, the US spreads much, much, much more than Russia.
You keep posting sources for things that are unrelated to my original question. Obviously the USA is top or near top of the list of spreading propaganda online, no one in their right mind would debate that. If you have sources saying that Hamas is spreading misinformation in a way that affects the USA’s 2024 presidential election I am very interested in learning about that.
I didn’t say that Hamas was spreading misinformation. I wrote “Hamas or Putler interweb trolls,” which you read as “Hamas [interweb trolls] or Putler interweb trolls,” but I wasn’t talking about “Hamas interweb trolls.“
this should help put things in perspective https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2024-us-election-pac-spending-donations-fec/
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