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  • Your understanding of politics is about what one expect from an American high schooler. The UN resolution recognizing One China is very clear. The article about current day censorship in Taiwan is also very clear. The fact that it provides historical context does not mean Taiwan does not continue to do censorship.

    Back when [Hong Kong] was cool

    Was that before or after the British realized they had to develop an anti-communist movement in their, now former, colony. Presumably after. If you had family that had to flee, they were either European colonizers or they were working for the Europeans, either way, not exactly winning any points with anyone who understands history.


  • China doesn’t have a veto on recognizing countries because it’s not a function of the Security Council. You really should read about it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly_Resolution_2758_(XXVI)

    More importantly Taiwan is de facto a country

    I am very tired of this specious debate. No it’s not. There is no “facto” of being a country. There is only “jure”. Countries are fictions that are constructed socially by agreement, and the social agreements of the world are such that Taiwan is not a country. Hell, the social agreements of Taiwan itself throughout its entire history is that it is not a country. The only people who make the argument that Taiwan is “de facto” a country are anti-comnunists who believe it’s perfectly just to purge tens of thousands of political dissidents for 3 generations and then claim that public opinion is a valid and untainted method of determining correctness.

    Your initial post was a bad attempt at propaganda, hilarious you accuse me of the same thing.

    Oh. My. God. Are you actually that daft? Hotz posted an article. My original post, which was a comment, was a link to Wikipedia page and nothing else. Holy fucking shit. Journalism is what happens when a journalist writes an article describing something about the world. Propaganda is when that journalism commits hypocrisy via lies of ommission. Providing context for that hypocrisy, peer reviewed and sourced, is not a form of bad propaganda. It’s literally anti-propaganda.

    Censorship in both countries, as well as personal freedoms are not the same. I would happily move to and live in Taiwan, I would never live in China for that reason.

    No one gives a shit where you would choose to live. You don’t live in either of those places. Your entire basis for your supposed “preference” is narrative, not lived experience. Your preference is meaningless.

    I sleep well at night knowing after Russia’s clusterfuck of an invasion of Ukraine, China would never be stupid enough to attempt the same in Taiwan.

    I have been sleeping well at night for decades on this topic because China’s position on Taiwan has literally been the same for 50 fucking years - they will never invade Taiwan to force integration militarily. They will only invade Taiwan on two conditions that constitute a national security threat to China: 1) the advancement of foreign kill chains that leverage the province and 2) the political declaration of secession by the provincial government of Taiwan because that would trigger foreign powers to deploy their militaries at a scale which would threaten national security.

    They have said this for literal decades. The policy has never changed. The preparations have never stopped. The vigilance against the US and UK military presence in the region has been unending. The Russian invasion of Ukraine has not changed China’s position at all.



  • Sorry but Taiwan has never been a country. The UN has recognized Taiwan as a province of China for over 50 years and it was a province of China for a couple centuries before that. There was a brief period of Japanese occupation, but never has it ever been a separate country. The reason Taiwan would censor things from the CPC are the exact same reasons the CPC would censor things from Taiwan. They are literally congruent and the only reason to focus on the censorship of one side over the other is if you believe one side to be the “good guys” and one side to be the “bad guys” which means you’re not doing journalism or even promoting journalism, you’re just assuming your preconceived notions and then spreading propaganda to support your position, which is something Hotznplotz is very well known for in the fediverse.







  • Wow. It’s like we’re successfully organizing and having an impact?

    You can’t have it both ways friend. Either our path is impotent and we are small and unorganized or we actually have significant effects on the world and our strategies are working.

    The people who believe in the ballot box have a legacy of 800k dead annually from bi-partisan sanctions, the largest criminal justice system by a factor of three, the most racially biased criminal justice system in the world, active maintenance of the domestic colonial genocide regime, active maintenance of the Israeli colonial genocide regime, domestic surveillance replete with sex pest cops stalking women, lynchings by cops and by white supremacists, 247 years of war, millions dead from wars of choice and aggression, and countless other atrocities and systems of unending oppression that both parties develop, maintain, advance, and protect.

    Thank you for your effort in organizing the vote.


  • Well don’t give them the concession they want

    Nope. You’re still not hearing the critique. Voting is a concession that the power elite give to the people. They really don’t care what people want but they know that if they didn’t allow voting they would have a rebellion to deal with. So voting is a concession they make to us. And they do it because it’s something they can control to ensure it doesn’t actually effect their class interests, even if the masses manage to organize and vote harder, because they know that if you can convince people voting is what matters they can reduce the chances of a rebellion.

    DSA has NYC to show for their efforts.

    Yeah, I mean. That’s how concessions work. Small victories that in a few locations that symbolically work to make people feel like progress is possible. We can see the history of how these things have worked both in the US and all across Latin America - social democracy emerges to absorb the anger of the masses, some concessions are made, and then a right-wing backlash inevitably reverses it all because the structure is still built by and for the power elite. The only way to address this is dismantling the structure entirely and rebuilding it. Mamdani getting elected is a nice symbolic victory and it will make some people’s lives better for a few years. Hell, he may even make a couple of long term beneficial changes. But the power stays the same.

    You don’t have anyone to take to the streets or staying power.

    Yeah, I mean, that’s what organizing is for and that’s why the US had two purges of leftists, outlawed communist organizing, huge propaganda campaigns, bipartisan media manipulation, and we are now entering into a third purge with both parties supporting it including putting people into prison with 70-year sentences for free speech.

    Vote mongering groups have staying before because they don’t get disrupted violently by a bi-partisan coalition. Actually effective organizing has to put in a lot more effort to stay around long enough without being purged.


  • Voting is Maggie Simpson’s steering wheel in the car - symbolic and powerless.

    So… it will be opposed… I rest my case

    No. You’re still not hearing the criticism. Voting is impotent. It doesn’t have to be opposed because it’s structurally powerless. That’s why Princeton’s research showed that popular opinion, regardless of which power divisions between parties, has no measurable impact on legislation. Because doesn’t matter and never has. The parties do what they want and voting is the symbolic concession that makes people feel like the reason politicians are bad is because the voters failed.

    No one is saying the voting will be resisted. We’re saying voting has never mattered in the history of the USA. It was designed that way by the founders. Mass movements are structurally incapable of changing the US via the ballot box by design.

    You should be proud of that btw; its the kind of leftist movement J. Edgar Hoover wanted to see. One apathetic about voting and without meaningful organization.

    It’s very important to understand how organizing works. Organizing for voting is wasted organizing. There are plenty of ways to organize that have nothing to do with voting and that organizing has far and away more impact because voting is impotent. And when more people become aware of the impotence of voting, alternative actions becomes the conversation. Voting is not a gateway drug to direct action. It’s a distraction from it.


  • Really? That’s your take away? That the reason we shouldn’t vote is because there will be opposition? Either you’re rage baiting in bad faith, lack reading comprehension, or are so wracked by cognitive dissonance you cannot process the criticism.

    The criticism has been, for decades now, that the Democrats are collaborators with fascists, they are enablers of fascists, and they are, in fact, mask-on fascists. That’s the critique.

    Obama won. We didn’t have a problem with “there will be opposition”. And then he expanded DHS and ICE massively, deported record numbers of people, and appointed Tom Homan to run the decorations. Trump used Homan in both terms to deport less people than both Obama/Biden and Biden/Harris, and he used the framework that Obama/Biden put in place. Biden took office between those terms. He had intimate knowledge of what he and Obama did to expand the departments, and yet all he did for 4 years was choose different priorities for the department. No attempts at all to prevent a future Republican from doing exactly what we knew they would do.

    Bush 2 and his military advisors planned to destroy 7 countries, among them Libya and Iran. Bush didn’t get around to Libya, so Obama/Biden with Clinton at the State Dept did Libya. Because they are collaborating on the same plan with the same atrocities for the same reasons.

    And this goes back as far as memory will take us. Even before the realignment that we got today, Republic and Democrats collaborated to manage the civil rights crisis, maintain the power system, and build out systems to disenfranchise Black people (collaboratively) after they passed the civil rights act (collaboratively).

    No one is saying “ooo, we can’t vote because they’ll oppose us”. We’re saying that voting is the system that the power elite hands us to make sure we feel like we have a say because if they didn’t do that then we’d riot.

    Voting is Maggie Simpson’s steering wheel in the car - symbolic and powerless.

    The only thing that will work and has ever worked is rebellion.






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    Yeah, you can. But you can also just focus on the thing that has always worked and will always work which is interest convergence. We must make politicians suffer for going the wrong way and benefit from going the right way. Civil Rights was passed by a bi-partisan coalition because they knew if they didn’t things would get much much worse for them, not at the ballot box, on the street. Women got suffrage without voting. Labor had to fight literal paramilitary combat to get us weekends. That’s how it works. Sure, vote. But don’t waste so much time on it and certainly don’t waste time trying to convince people to vote or convince people that “blue no matter who” is moral or that “sign up to be a Democrat, add your name to their roster and then vote in their convoluted and rat fucked primary system”. Let people vote their conscience and focus on raising their consciousness.


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    I love that people think it’s a genocide denial to say that there is literally no evidence of genocide in Xinjiang. The UN has never classified it as a genocide. The population is increasing. The average household income is increasing. Muslim observers from a dozen countries have been approved the situation.

    Do you deny the genocide in Leeds is an actual genocide?