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I was hoping from the title that this meant that Graphene could run on the car. They’re still a huge privacy concern.
GrapheneOS requires specific safety hardware that, as of now, is usually available only on the Google Pixel line of phones. If your standard smartphone doesn’t include it, I doubt a car does.
Android Auto is a specific system that mirrors app contents from your phone. It’s basically an extended monitor for your phone with specific formatting to be car usage friendly. It doesn’t do anything about a car’s embedded systems
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Modern cars are a privacy shitshow
Edit: spelling
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What does that have to do with my question?
Which question? The one you asked who was the huge privacy concern? If so…did you read the article they linked you? Because the answer is there, and I’m not going to read it for you.
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…either of them?
They answered the “who is the huge privacy concern” with the link. I literally just said that.
so I don’t know how you could possibly know who they were speaking of.
I read the link that was the replied to you, and applied context. It’s not hard to understand what a person means when they literally write it down. It’s one method of communication. Or do you constantly read articles, and never know what the authors meant unless you can quiz them directly?
Plugging your phone in doesn’t suddenly make your car more or less private so I don’t understand the relevance.
They weren’t necessarily talking about making the car more or less private via plugging in the phone. The original comment in this thread was wishing GrapheneOS was on cars, and then “modern cars are bad for privacy” link. They were talking about the existing poor state of privacy on modern cars and wishing it was fixed via wishing GrapheneOS could be flashed to the car. There was nothing in this thread about plugging your phone into the car making it more or less private. Again…context.
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they meant it as having graphene replace the car’s OS. the cars themselves is the privacy concern
I’m a Luddite for sure, but I’d be uncomfortable with my car having access to data about how I interact with my phone. I use Lineage and not Graphene, but I don’t think I’d use Android Auto if it was available for Lineage. (Or maybe it is. Not sure. But I wouldn’t use it regardless.)
the solution is to yank out the stock infotainment system and put in a new one that doesn’t suck. that and cracking down on automakers who play dirty
Also for people thinking that this will block the functions that your existing one has integrated with the vehicle, you can get something like iDatalink Maestro to translate things. As long as it’s compatible with your car and the head unit is compatible with the Maestro then you can access existing functions.
Is there one that doesn’t suck and isn’t auto/carplay?
Wow this is incredible, and I will be making the switch! This was the only unavailable feature that I couldn’t go without.
Same. I used graphene and calyx for a while but really needed the nav features so stoped using them. Very excited for this!!
I recall watch pairing being temperamental when I tried it as well, but this will be a solid reason to give it another go. Maybe put it in one of the old phones for a test drive and go from there. Graphine certainly makes it easier to hop over with their online flash tool than most did in the past.
I’m more interested in that Nitro Phone 4, tbh. Not in buying it, as I’d just flash it myself, but it’s an interesting product. They also include options for removing sensors, microphones and cameras, which seems kind of cool and crazy - without the microphones how do you make calls?!
You either connect a mic via Bluetooth or wired headset.
Bluetooth, doi, don’t know why I didn’t think of that.
Either you plug a wired microphone each time you receive a call, or you explicitly do not receive calls with the device and use it as a tablet basically.
Ahh yeah that makes sense.
I don’t understand, isn’t the Nitro just a rebranded Pixel with Graphene?
Yup it is, but apparently they also have options to physically remove components for added security. It costs €300 though, on top of the premium they charge for simply installing GrapheneOS and putting a sticker on the back.
So yeah, I find it interesting, but I don’t think it’s something I’d buy lol.
Yeah, don’t ever connect your phone to your car. It has been proven that they steal all your data.
Better yet, don’t have a phone.
Or a car
Better yet, have a de-Google’d phone and don’t connect it to the car. Don’t see why it is “better” not to have one at all.
You can’t just go around proving people wrong all the time!
Android auto is, to put it lightly, shit. The compatibility issues itself are enough to make one vomit (try finding out what’s required to use wireless connection) but once you manage to connect it it just gets worse and worse. I would not put it on my main phone even if it did work. Instead I bough cheap stock android phone and got a cheap, data only SIM (€2/month). The phone stays in my car, is not used for anything else and doesn’t have any personal accounts. I’m fairly happy with this setup.
I’ve been using Android auto for awhile. I’ve had some hiccups, but overall it’s been a great addition.
Totally agree. Andriod Auto shits the bed occasionally, but well worth it, in my opinion. Imo the best thing is how your info dash is based off your phone instead of the car. Makes it super handy for rentals or trading cars with the wife
Yeah agreed. Been the two I prefer Carplay, but not by a lot.
Yes you’re right. A feature so popular that it’s been adopted by most major auto manufacturers is complete garbage. Everyone hates it. Graphene is only even adding it to appease like 3-4 people tops!
Because people don’t use garbage technologies? Ever heard of Windows? Internet explorer? AOL? Butterfly keyboards? I guess not.
You can say what you want, but using a phone instead of the integrated dashboard of your car is not a better experience. I kinda like android auto. My stupid car didnt support android auto wireless (only cable), but I bought a device that acts as a bridge. So now my phone automatically connects to Android auto and it just works every time. I can open my calendar on my dashboard and navigate to the addresses of my appointments with one click.
Which device?
Not sure what that guy above is using but I’ve had AAWireless for over a year and it’s flawless.
I dislike the latest updates to waze on Android auto. I always refresh my route before going to the freeway on my commute but now the routes button moved to the top right corner and is tiny. For that reason I prefer my phone on my click in wireless charger in my car which has the better phone waze ui
A phone may not be better than AA, but a dedicated tablet could be. I haven’t owned a car in a while now so I’m not sure what the current scene is like, but back in the day there used to be dedicated custom ROMs for cars (Timur’s ROM for eg), which had various optimisations for car usage. I used those ROMs in combination with Tasker and Greenify, so that my tablet (a Nexus 7 and later a Nexus 9) would automatically activate and launch my GPS apps and Spotify when I turned on my car, and when I turned it off, it would enter into airplane mode and go into deep sleep. With this, I could leave my tablet in my car and have it behave like a built-in infotainment system.
I also had it hooked up to my car’s OBD2 port using an adapter, and could get realtime car stats like the speed and temps. There’s was also a This third-party car home app (I forget the name, Speedometer or something), which, IMO, was a much better (and customisable) interface than AA.
Compared to the setup I had back then, AA feels like a joke in comparison. Mind you, I don’t think the concept of AA irsel isn’t bad, but at least in my experience and use case, I felt it was quite restrictive and clunky compared to using a full-fledged Android with third-party apps. The best part of this setup was that there was no reliance on my phone, no reliance on my car manufacturer, and no reliance on Google.
I’m considering getting a rear view mirror that has integrated a Android Auto functionality so I can use Maps without ever looking away from the road. Even better than dash
You got lucky. I also bought the wireless dongle and my phone was not compatible. Only the latest phones are but the requirements are nowhere to be found. I also tried a simple phone with android Go but turns out Go does not support android auto at all. This is also not said anywhere on android auto page. Now I have another ohone and a cable and it does mostly work but the voice assistant (like the most important feature when driving) is buggy, the screen gets all messed up from time to time, support for it in apps is still not great and of course it all goes through google so bye bye privacy. Of course it’s better than the infotainment systems that all the car brands had because it’s does support more apps and the big car display is better than phone holder but overall it still sucks. A truly open standard that would let phones just display stuff on the car’s screen and get input from it would be so much better but of course there’s no hope for it.
