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patatas@sh.itjust.works to Shitty Ask Lemmy@lemmy.ml · 2 months ago

Did Marx write anything about supporting/critiquing AI? If so, did his inkpen choose the words or did he do it himself?

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Did Marx write anything about supporting/critiquing AI? If so, did his inkpen choose the words or did he do it himself?

patatas@sh.itjust.works to Shitty Ask Lemmy@lemmy.ml · 2 months ago
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cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/43135761

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    2 months ago

    The name is a synonym for “false consciousness” and you’re out here defending it

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      False consiousness is about misinterpreting reality, it isn’t a synonym of AI. False consciousness is a human condition, when humans, for example, accept idealist analysis rather than dialectical materialist. These are not at all the same subject, and, ironically, you are closer to displaying false consciousness by trying to link it to AI than AI is to false consciousness.

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      Ya, asbestos has “some use cases” but only gives you lung cancer under capitalism

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        Asbestos is not AI, a frog is not a squirrel. This is silly.

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          2 months ago

          This is a post in ShittyAskLemmy fyi

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            Yea I know, but you clearly made it after making an AskLemmy post.

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              So reply seriously there, then

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                There aren’t any rules against replying seriously, and it seemed to me that you were taking it pretty seriously later on.

      • ∞🏳️‍⚧️Edie [it/its, she/her, fae/faer, love/loves, null/void, des/pair, none/use name]@lemmy.ml
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        Asbestos is not a tool.

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          Sure it is, it transforms buildings into costly abatement invoices

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        “Tools are always neutral and a process has no impact on the person performing the process” <— you, definitely not doing black and white thknking

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          Tools have different social functions in different modes of production. A hammer in the hands of a yeoman does not alienate them from the product of their labor, but a hammer that is owned by a capitalist alienates the proletarian from the product of their labor. The hammer didn’t change, its social role did.

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            Ah but you twisted my words there. I said a process in the second half of the sentence.

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              Yes, you said process. I fail to see what you’re accomplishing in calling a program a process vs a tool.

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