“EVERYBODY HAS TO DIE.”
If its your god’s plan to unnecessarily murder innocent children, then your god can go fuck itself
“I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” - Isaiah 45:7 King James Version (KJV)
That’s because if he acknowledges he was wrong he also has to acknowledge he let his daughter die through neglect.
Not so hard to understand really.
We can simultaneously acknowledge that this idiot let his daughter die and that he will pay the ultimate price for that stupidity every day for the rest of his life.
Why is this in all caps?
Hopefully the rest of the family follows suit and just fucking dies. Morons.
The future needs to be letting idiots kill themselves or the fascists will continue to weaponize their stupidity
Ignorance is dangerous.
Another line of thought: this is severe negligence, leading to death. Throw this guy in jail for homicide.
This is why pseudoscience at all levels is dangerous to a modern society. Including “harmless” shit like astrology. It encourages magical thinking and the disregard of science in favor of belief in something that “feels right.”
Take that to its logical conclusion, and people die.
Astrology? Of all things, why point fingers at that? Give me one example on why it may lead to dangerous conclusions.
They already did.
It leads to magical thinking.
That’s a generalization, not an example. What does that even mean or tries to mean?
Astrology also was used by Ronald Reagan, president of the United States, to help decide important issues.
I think that’s good proof it’s fucking dangerous.
This is the way. “Food has stuff in it we don’t trust, so I stopped feeding her.”
These people do, sincerely, need to be incarcerated.
It’s not going to happen, though, under this or even under any administration under the current Democratic party.
“UnDeR tHe DeMocRatS”
Oh yes, the Democrats. FAMOUSLY in charge of Texas. CURRENTLY in charge of the FDA and government.
How about we stay on topic.
MMR would still be required in schools if the Dems won. It’s one of the very few things they bother to do (though poorly). This kid could possibly still be alive.
To your point about Texas: California, the bastion of liberal ideals for decades, deregulated their power grid in 1996, when Democrats controlled the state Senate and the state Assembly. Fucking conservative bullshit. So don’t go picking and choosing your “it’s only the Republican’s fault” talking points.
I’m not one of those people who don’t think there’s any difference between the parties, but the Democrats are certainly only the lesser of two evils. The recent vote in which a full 10 Democrats voted for the stop-gap spending bill, which strengthens Trump’s dictatorial agenda; Biden’s stance on numerous issues, and Kamala’s refusal to distance herself on those issues; despite Biden showing up at Labor rallies, the utter lack of recognition - much less any action to combat - the increasing wealth disparity in the US; the constant repetition of Biden’s administration of how great the economy is while middle and lower class families struggle; the whole way the Biden/Harris 2024 campaign was handled, with the obvious back-stabbing of Biden (poorly handled, if nothing else); the Democratic party’s rejection of anyone left of, or more pro-working class, than Biden - including Sanders, AOC, or anyone that would be considered too “left” for the corporations that control the US government; all these things demonstrate that the Democratic party aren’t the party of the left anymore. They’re merely not outright fascist Nazis, but the party is still pro-Billionaire, pro-big-business.
When the Democrats have been in charge, where were the bills for Traveler’s Rights? Where were the bills strengthening civil liberties? Where were the bills working to reduce income disparity, to strengthen Unions - where was any of that? Republicans have certainly been effective at advancing their agenda - who’s been advancing the agenda of progressives? Who stood up against the invasion of Iraq? Anyone? Not Hillary, that’s for sure. Who shut down Guantanamo? It’s still there, and still running.
The Democratic party is weak, ineffectual, and seems more concerned with profiting from their own positions (thanks for that bit of ammunition, Pelosi) than doing anything for the working classes, or protecting immigrants, or minorities, or going any fucking thing to fight the far right. Or maybe they’re just incompetent. While Republicans have been stacking the courts, Democrats have been either incompetent, uncaring, bafflingly oblivious, or downright stupid, and I don’t know which is worse.
There are exceptions in the party, but that’s only because it’s been proven that it’s nearly impossible to get elected without belonging to one party or the other. But the Democratic party as a whole is little better than the lesser of two evils.
We’re already in an oligarchy, run by the wealthy and large corporations, and with a Russian asset as our president. What have the Democrats - our elected representatives - done to prevent this? I’ll take personal responsibility when we have direct representation, and I can bypass my representatives and vote directly on bills; until then, the representatives are answerable for the state of the country.
The Democratic party needs a leftist version of the Tea Party. Until then, they’re going to continue to concede and compromise us into a complete dictatorship.
The topic is measles. Would you like to comment on that?
I did. Four comments back in history.
To summarize:
X: These people that let their kids die from medical neglect need to be jailed
Me: Yes they do, but it isn’t going to happen under either the Pubes or the Dems
X: Oh, you’re one of those “both parties are the same” idjits
Me: No, Dems are the lesser of two evils, but they haven’t been “the good guys” in a long time. They’ve only been “the least bad”, and they’re getting less “least bad” over time.The Democratic party now is like the Republican party was in the 70’s. Give them 20 more years with the way they’ve been going, and they won’t be defending vaccines anymore, either.
This whole thread has everything to do with vaccines; context is important. The whole sequence of statements on the thread is significant to what’s said.
These idiots are so transparent.
It makes me think they’re bots, honestly.
It makes me want to write a bot that explains FPTP and damage reduction over and over, since that seems to be how I spend my time…
I wish they were all bots…
under this or even under any administration under the current Democratic party.
Pardon? Which Democrats are you referring to with respect to the story at hand? What made you bring them up?
You’re kind of bad at this.
The current Democratic party, as opposed to the one from, say, the 80’s.
The current leadership of the Democratic party are, and have been for several years, not an effective foil to the far right; they’ve been failing. Since Reagan they’ve been letting Republican administrations stack courts, block progressive legislation, failing to block conservative legislation, and just been all-around failures.
Why are the courts stacked with conservative judges? Why do we have literal criminals sitting, unimpeached, on the Supreme Court? Why do we have a felon in the White House? Why did 10 Democrats just give Republicans the votes they needed to Push through a spending bill that cedes even more power to Trump? Why is the country riddled with Gerrymandered states ensuring Republican control even in states where they don’t hold a majority of votes? Why, in the past 4 elections where a Republican has won the Presidency, has only one won the popular vote? Why is no-one in Congress standing up for Palestine? Why is anti-vax so popular? Where. The fuck. Is. The Democratic leadership?
You’re kind of bad at this.
Oh! An ad hominem attack. That’s… unsurprising.
At the start of 1900, people were ignorant but knew a doctor would help them; these people are ignorant AND stupid.
That kid sadly became a victim of her parents belief that opinions are better than facts.
Those who believe absurdities will commit atrocities.
-Voltaire
No shit. His choices are to either double down or admit to himself that he killed his daughter.
He is mentally ill. His child should have been taken away from him long before this happened.
Unfortunately, thanks to millions of people as mentally ill as he is, who inject the conservative propaganda machine directly into their brain stem, she may not have been much better off in foster care…
“My child is better off as a corpse than I would have been, had I understood that my distrust of medical science stemmed from malicious actors.” I want everybody to pay attention, this is programming. This is intentional, it is circulated by the Billionaire class, across media platforms. They control all of our news media and social media. They own all of the content we post online. Every automatic cloud backup you have to opt out of. Everything you’ve ever logged into a chromium searchbar. Through social engineering and hypernormalisation, they have collected all of our bank details, credit card numbers, license plate numbers. Everything you’ve ever sent as an attachment in an email. Their trackers permeate the entire clearnet, you cannot use a browser on the clearnet without being spied upon. Which is why privacy solutions all focus on obscuring your identity, because you will always be seen. The Head of Computer Science at Trinity College Dublin, recently discovered Google have been effectively violating GDPR, likely since its inception, by including a hidden cookie that immediately starts the process of collecting telemetry on the user. When approached about the legality of it, the spokesperson for Google said they “Could not Comment” on the legality of violating EU law.
In North America, if you head to Google Maps on your android, look at permissions, then touch the 3 dots in the corner and select “see all permissions.” You will see what a dire situation we find ourselves in. Google Maps has been recording all of your location data, all the time. Regardless of if it’s allowed as a permission by the User. Google Maps scans and reads your storage. As does Google Search, Gmail and anything else Alphabet and Apple include on their devices. Did we notice after Covid how every Card Reader became an android device, with dual front and rear facing cameras? How about how every security camera is now a wifi camera? Coincidentally, that runs android. As does the automated checkouts that proliferated after the pandemic, they record you as you use them and they take your picture. They record your grocery list, card number and then they follow you, in your car using your location data. Your phone, announces itself to every other smart device around it, to wifi routers and bluetooth devices. Even Turned off, apple products use Low Energy Bluetooth, powered by NVRAM to be able to locate you within a margin of error as low as 6 inches.
What is happening now, in the United States and around the world is merely theatre. Conducted by the surveillance arm and social engineering wing of the men who own the world. Apple is valued at over 3.6 Trillion Dollars. The entire GDP of Earth, is just over 13 Trillion Dollars. That is one company, add to that Google, Meta, X, Rupert Murdoch’s empire. By the way, that does not include the Billions privately banked by Zuckerberg and the rest of them. You want to know, why the housing crisis exists? Why inflation exists? It benefits them, for it to exist. Facebook has been legitimately, causally (and I want to stress that) implicated in the Myanmar Genocide. Their choosing to have a single moderator that spoke one dialect of the local languages, operating out of Dublin, Ireland with more than 6 hours in the time difference. To review and curtail racist and genocidal content uploaded to their platform. Was a conscious decision, done for personal economic benefit. Banks make money, by ostensibly betting on geopolitics. Say, for example you know there’s going to be serious social and economic unrest in Myanmar. Well you take options predicting that companies with a lot of holdings in that state will take a nosedive. You make exponentially larger gains than by buying and trading Swiss Francs for Euros.
Cryptocurrency, there’s a laugh. Bitcoin was not made by a genius Japanese recluse called “Satoshi.” What kind of anime do you think you’re living in? Crypto is meant to normalise the idea of an entirely digital currency. So, that every single transaction, that we make is recorded. They want to move us to a cashless society where our biometrics are directly linked to our bank accounts. What a way to sell it, as if it’s privacy. Cryptographic currency, nobody knows anything, except that every single transaction is recorded on the publicly available ledger. Hang on, your wallet address is just a string of numbers, it doesn’t mean anything. Yes, a unique string of numbers, tied to you, the purchase of cryptocurrency and opening of said wallet, using your Credit/Debit Card. 2FA doesn’t exist to protect you from hackers. It exists to link, every single account you have to a common device. Your phone, with it’s unique IMEI which is known by the state, your carrier, Google/Apple/Meta and every single centralised media platform you have ever visited. What have we done?
They have amassed so much money, through affiliate links, mass surveillance and tax fraud. That they can never be prosecuted for these evils. The rapid acceleration in global warming is directly caused by Amazon and other Chinese suppliers. They pollute en masse, destroy our wildlife and record every waking moment of our lives in the name of “progress.” They have dirt of every single person in the world, then they built LLM’s to be able to effectively wield it against us. Even if you’re a Ludite, who never used a smartphone, they know who your family are, they know who your children are and if they can’t bribe, bend of break you? They can just have you killed. They’ll be cleared, just like every accusation of sexual misconduct, every human rights violation, every scandal because when you can give someone 100,000,000 dollars, and not even notice. Why wouldn’t you be completely insane? Why wouldn’t you feel like a god? The fundamental binding link for all of 21st century human society is capital resources. Through broken ownership laws, we have allowed people to remove all obstacles to monopolisation and human enslavement.
In 2023 The US Justice Department ruled Google was a monopoly and ordered them to divest. In September of the following year, they found Alphabet, Google’s parent company, in contempt and ordered them to divest Chrome, or Android. Now they get to keep it. In 2016 Google’s company, X (subtle) then X Development LLC. Held a talk on the theoretical power of social engineering. Although, quite unnerving, they specified that it was just theoretical. You know what else happened in 2016? The Brexit Referendum, where this party UKIP, appeared, out of nowhere into mainstream conciousness. With provably false claims about the EU’s relationship, with then member state, The United Kingdom, printed on the side of Busses. This is nothing new, I invite anyone to read the back catalogue of articles written by Boris Johnson whilst he worked for the Daily Telegraph, if you really want to dive into right wing political lies from that era. All of, it circulated, on Facebook.
At the same time, we see mass migration happening from the East, to the West. Brought in through visa programs lobied for by corporations, McDonald’s, Tim Hortons, Starbucks, Google, Meta. What starts proliferating on social media? Less than two weeks after the presidential debate where Donald Trump states, “They’re eating the cats and dogs.” A video of supposedly, police bodycam footage appears on r/Crazyfuckingvideos, that shows officers in a different part of Ohio, not Springfield, approaching a large, nude, catatonic black woman, covered in blood and fur. The title says she has just eaten the neighbour’s cat. Immediately in the comments we see two things, “OMG, Trump was right.” Then the defense “She’s not a Haitian Migrant, she’s an American Citizen” and “This didn’t even happen in Springfield guys.” The result is two fold, you either believe what Trump has said, or you believe the opposite and that this will be used to justify what he said. In reality, it’s fake. It is designed to entrench you in your previously held beliefs, because the goal is to divide the working class.
The same thing happened with “Axle Rudikabana” the supposed 17-year-old UK citizen of African descent who, we are told stabbed 3 girls to death at a “Taylor Swift Themed Event” in the UK in 2024. One of which, in the neck 124 individual times, almost decapitating her. There is no footage, of Axle Rudikabana, or any further detail of what this event was, or any image of this boy, or the girl’s family. The UK is the most highly surveilled country in western Europe, there is no footage of the attack, of this boy traveling to the event, of anyone walking into it from the street outside. Nothing. There is later a video of a police car driving down a non-descript road, we are told is the police transferring him to court. How do you possibly determine, 124 individual stab wounds to the neck? Where the girl is almost decapitated. 124? He would have had to have been on top of this girl for multiple minutes. This “Taylor Swift Themed Event” Had no security? Had no working cameras and had nobody who could have caught an image, or moved to stop this teenager with a knife. Then come the comments, “He’s a UK Citizen, he’s not a migrant.”
The Dublin Riots of 2023 where far right groups “protest” as a little girl is stabbed by a mentally ill Eastern European man and also Irish national. The little girl in question being the child of a Polish Woman and Brazillian man and also an Irish Citizen. Bravely saved by a Brazillian delivery driver. To date, there has been no footage of the attack, no footage of the little girl, no video recorded interview of the parents, or the perpetrator of the attack. Then the comments in r/Ireland. “He was an Irish Citizen, not an asylum Seeker.” “The little girl’s parents are foreigners, this has nothing to do with immigration.” Do we understand, what this is? This is programming. I could go on, but I’m at the text limit.
“We don’t like the vaccinations, what they have these days. We heard too much, and we saw too much.”
I want to know what he heard and saw about vaccines, and where he heard and saw it.
I think a lot of the issues in these extremely conservative communities is due to them being unable to rectify the contradictions between religious beliefs and the scientific method.
Probably has less to do with religion and more with not being able to distinguish between reputable and non reputable sources.
Seriously, what exactly do you think “religious faith” is, if not strongly believing in something despite lack of evidence (i.e., exactly the antithesis of the Scientific Method)?
I’m just saying, there’s plenty of secular anti-vaxxers who just believe it because they saw it on Facebook and don’t understand that anyone can post whatever nonsense they want on there without repercussions.
if it’s not from the church it’s not reputable, and they’re trained that way by the church from the moment they’re kids.
This. This has nothing to do with them reading reputable and non reputable sources. The Mennonites are extremely obedient to whomever their local leaders are, up to and including uprooting and leaving if they decide another location just needs more people. Not using vaccines when a lot of these folks aren’t allowed to use the internet is not that much of a stretch.
I live in a country where nobody goes to church (France) and we have the same crazy persons.
And I go to church and I’m fully onboard with science, including vaccinations. So it’s not church that’s the problem, but people being dumb, which neither faith nor atheism can fix.
Meh not just the church, this dude probably gets all his news and science info third hand from Facebook groups fed with disinformation by recycled content from Russian bots
The kids don’t deserve to die, but the parents deserve to lose them.
If he had gotten her the vaccine, what was she going to do? Die harder?
She was gonna turn into a gay frog, duh
She would have got woke gay autism
OKAY, BUT WHY ARE WE SCREAMING AT EACH OTHER?
I LOST MY HEARING AID CAN YOU HELP ME FIND IT?
DID YOU CHECK YOUR EARS ? YOUR BATTERY MAY JUST BE DEAD!!
“In measles we trust”
He should be forcibly sterilized
Retroactively, but he was.
